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0016238Return of ReckoningGeneralpublic2023-12-09 15:18
ReporterReturnOfReckoning Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status closedResolutionopen 
Summary0016238: Shadow Warrior Stance Dropping
DescriptionReporter: WhiteRabbitRedRabbit

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**Expected behavior and actual behavior:**

Shadow Warrior Stance stays up once activated.



**Steps to reproduce the problem:**

Unable to narrow down exactly what causes it.

In one instance, I used a melee attack, while mounted, in Altdorf, against a grey rat and that dropped the stance. In other attempts, including in a scenario, this doesn't always drop the stance.

Sometimes just after joining a scenario while everyone is buffing, the stance will drop, but not always. Sometimes it will drop while leaving the spawn area (I am lvl 40 rr 63 so there shouldn't be any bolstering going on). Sometimes it doesn't drop. It is too random at the moment to determine just how it drops as it isn't consistent.

Sometimes it will drop in the middle of a fight, or after a fight, but other times the stance lasts the entire scenario.

On rare occasion the stance will come back on. The dropping of the stance isn't a display error, however, as I am unable to use assault abilities while the stance is down.

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ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:07

reporter   ~0029807

Commenter: WhiteRabbitRedRabbit

![Vashti_006](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/42100145/78466969-c09f5300-76d5-11ea-8342-bb6a8e764baa.jpg)

Found a picture that shows the end result. On the right hand Assault Stance is clearly showing, but above the smaller green health bar my stance is not showing. And, from the strength showing, the stance is not registering.

I did more testing today. I managed a period of time where the stance never dropped. Then another period where it dropped all the time, including in combat, and I thinking buffs will overwrite it, including the mount "buff", but it is not consistent.

Before the server reboot today (evening of 4/4 est) the stance was not dropping. Afterwards it started dropping.
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:07

reporter   ~0029808

Commenter: grunbag

What tactic do you use ?
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:07

reporter   ~0029809

Commenter: WhiteRabbitRedRabbit

I am using Merciless Soldier, Sinister Assault, Instinctive Aim, and Wrist Slash.

Edit: Today I also had my potion disappear when I reapplied a stance and noticed an Archmage buff disappear as well outside of combat with plenty of minutes left on the timer. It appears buffs are sometimes wiping out other buffs, but I can't determine how it is happening.
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:07

reporter   ~0029810

Commenter: Garrthax

confirming, have same issue from today, dont have it before - stances are randomly lost, not just visual bug, stats are changed and appropriate skils disabled too even in middle of fight

edit: looks like they are more prone to be lost in higher button spam in larger fights

edit 2: happens mostly in scenarios

edit 3: cant be switched back directly, must switch to another stance and then to original

edit 4: same in city
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:07

reporter   ~0029811

Commenter: Kaelang

As of 22/04/2020 this should have been fixed. See note: - Attempt to fix an issue causing Shadow Warrior stance to drop randomly.

Please let me know if you're still experiencing this.
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:07

reporter   ~0029812

Commenter: Garrthax

looks ok after patch, thank you
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:07

reporter   ~0029813

Commenter: Chargedbolt

Shadow Warrior stances still falling off as of 30.04.20.

I tried to do 2 ranked scenarios. Had this happen 6-7 times in those.
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:07

reporter   ~0029814

Commenter: grunbag

Does it happen when you use potion / liniments or such buffing items?
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029815

Commenter: Chargedbolt

>
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> Does it happen when you use potion / liniments or such buffing items?

I happened to use strength/armor pots in those, but I haven't tried without pots yet. Will reply back if I do a few without in the future.

I haven't noticed this issue before except when you change zones or cross those 'zone borders' in certain pvp lakes (high pass / talabecland).

I just think the current Ranked Solo Scenario (The Maw of Madness) has a few of those 'zone border' spots in it, that trigger it. This wasn't a major issue before this scenario became the main ranked one.
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029816

Commenter: Garrthax

liniments/potion have no effect on stance droping, its totally same behaviour like random buff drops few years ago
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

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Commenter: grunbag

When this happen and where , I can’t fiw if I don’t know exactly when it happen . Does it happen if you’re solo , with allies or enemies around , in pve or rvr ?
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029818

Commenter: Garrthax

i really want to tell you exactly where and how, but its really random and i dont see simple pattern here, sometimes i can play whole days without problem

by my info it looks like <40lvl chars are affected the most

in scenario/city - totally random drops or its overwitten sometimes by pots or buffs or debuffs, sometimes when "changing" map - like high pass/talabec pseudoborder
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029819

Commenter: grunbag

Do you run specific tactic ?
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

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Commenter: Garrthax

tested all 3 stances with various builds - its same ... i have no freakin idea what causes it tbh
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029821

Commenter: agemennon675

This bug is still present, I cant use my Assault stance right now, issue didnt happen in skirmish stance only while using assault, CR:40 RR:65 Using str+armor potions, it drops while roaming around zones or in a scenario, stance drops and skill bar changes to Scout, Currently tactics equipped: Merciless Soldier, Instinctive Aim, Bullseye, Wrist Slash. As stated above it happens while moving around as if there are invisible gates that remove our stance, it might also because RvR flag
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

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Commenter: Garrthax

tested today again - on lvl 40 no drops at all now, on lvl 20 drops on bolster/debolster/aao change/stats pots/any buff/any debuff/random when hit
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

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Commenter: grunbag

Someone told me it drop when you have RP buff on you . Could you confirm ?
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

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Commenter: Garrthax

> Someone told me it drop when you have RP buff on you . Could you confirm ?

u mean reputation potion or runepriest buff?
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029825

Commenter: grunbag

RUNE priest
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ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029826

Commenter: Garrthax

friend tested it - sadly nope, its overwritten by any buff from any class sometimes
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029827

Commenter: grunbag

I tried everything you said for 2 hours this mor’ing And my stance never dropped
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029828

Commenter: Garrthax

so ... its maybe client related
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ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029829

Commenter: Ackiul

Hi, im having the same issue starting like a week ago when i started to play my SW again. Im just now configurating a way to record some video, in order to try to give more info and try to find a way to fix it.
  For now i can give this info without any proof more than my experience.

  The bug reset your stance, it remove the stance visual effect, it change your action bar related to your active stance and set it on a default (like when u enter the game and doesnt have any stance active at all) remove the benefits from the stance (like initiative and ballistic on scout stance, checked on char sheet) and doesnt let you active one stance until you active other stance diferent to the one you had when the bug happens, that stance will be activated correctly and after that you can again come back to the initial stance if you want.

EDIT: When i checked with .getstats, the stats where just fine, so the bug dont really removes your stance, only removes the visual buf and change your action bar related to active stance. Checked having the Assault Stance buged and i was geting the auto atacks proc correctly too.

  The bug is happening to me on Scout Stance, and Assault Stance. EDIT: Its happening on Skirmish Stance too.
  The bug was happening to me with a high frecuency when i was leveling. While leveling the triggers that i have identified for this bug are:
   -Any change on the Against all Odds while you are in RvR.
   -When you enter the RvR and gain the boost.
   -When you leave the RvR and lost the boost.

 At carreer level 40, its still happening to me but less often. Now the changes on AOO seems to be not triggering the bug (EDIT: yesterday at level 40 the bug was triggering on any changes on AOO while i was on dragonwake, now the same while i was on badlands at 15:50 aprox), however still happens some times on RvR and i cant identify the trigger.
 On the other hand its happening on scenarios too, there im not able to identify the trigger neither.

I have recorded some short clips and uploaded in order to share them. I'll be recording some more and will share if i think that might help, or if somebody request them.

  The links with the clips:

https://youtu.be/JOHjaYgjxuc - Altdorf
https://youtu.be/-VQyAQ_MfEg - Altdorf
https://youtu.be/l0KdJ_qVlGA - Altdorf
https://youtu.be/7O632sS8zRM - Event Item
https://youtu.be/2RWYtKYTZjA - Reikland
https://youtu.be/qmoxd1-2c2o - Blood of the Black Cairn Scenario
https://youtu.be/Ia6L1MktKRA - Reikland Hills Scenario
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029830

Commenter: Garrthax

after playing today, it also drops on tactic set change and even armor change for me
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029831

Commenter: Garrthax

today in ranked assault stance got deleted by shaman auto detaunt twice
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029832

Commenter: grunbag

I can’t make it drop with anything you listed
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ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029833

Commenter: Garrthax

ok, is there any possibility, that problem is on our side?
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029834

Commenter: Ackiul

It's a bit strange, yesterday i played many hours and didnt drop any time. Its inconsistent from my experience, sorry for the trouble :/ , if i can help with more info or clips just let me know.
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029835

Commenter: Ackiul

Well, after server restart it already happened to me 4 times on Thunder Valley Sc T_T
ReturnOfReckoning

ReturnOfReckoning

2023-08-13 04:08

reporter   ~0029836

Commenter: grunbag

It seems to happen a lot during sc so my guess is that a enemy career is cleansing it
MaxHayman

MaxHayman

2023-12-09 15:18

administrator   ~0041181

This issue is being closed as it should be fixed in the new ability system. Please create a new issue if this is not the case.

Issue History

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