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0023212Return of ReckoningAbilitiespublic2024-10-19 21:14
ReporterR1CH Assigned ToEmissary  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status assignedResolutionreopened 
Summary0023212: Taunt hate generation too low on every tank except IB
DescriptionWhile tanking a keep lord on my SM, I noticed my aggrometer score went up significantly more every time I used Challenge than when I used Taunt. I was running with Menace and spamming Taunt / Challenge on cooldown, but I was overtaken in aggro by an IB also running Menace. Something felt off, so I decided to look into the recently updated ability data on Dalen's site.

What I experienced seems to match what the data says:

IB taunt generates 2250 hate:
https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/1360

Every other tank only generates 300 hate:
BO: https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/1671
KOTBS: https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/8010
BG: https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/9322
SM: https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/9005
Chosen: https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/8322

Challenge is shared by all classes as a sub-ability that applies 1500 hate:
https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/ability/3267

Thus Challenge applies 5x more hate than Taunt for all tanks except IB where Taunt applies more than Challenge. Based on this, I suspect the IB Taunt is the only one with the correct hate value for Taunt and every other tank is too low.
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Emissary

Emissary

2024-10-19 05:24

manager   ~0044851

Ive probably answered this one a few times, taunt has the same component for hate of every class and the squig dalen's viewer showing different numbers is beyond me as the hate mechanic component is literally comp 430 which every tank class shares.
R1CH

R1CH

2024-10-19 21:10

reporter   ~0044855

Ignoring the IB discrepancy for now, the main issue still applies - on kotbs for example, a taunt generates 300 threat and challenge generates 2250. A single target taunt should generate a lot more than an AOE challenge IMO.
R1CH

R1CH

2024-10-19 21:14

reporter   ~0044856

Screenshots attached with aggrometer data. I also tested my lvl 6 IB which despite being unbolstered, generated more threat than my 40 kotbs.
challenge.jpg (38,970 bytes)   
challenge.jpg (38,970 bytes)   
taunt.jpg (30,894 bytes)   
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ibtaunt.jpg (19,813 bytes)   
ibtaunt.jpg (19,813 bytes)   

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2024-08-29 23:50 R1CH New Issue
2024-10-19 05:24 Emissary Note Added: 0044851
2024-10-19 05:24 Emissary Assigned To => Emissary
2024-10-19 05:24 Emissary Status new => closed
2024-10-19 05:24 Emissary Resolution open => no change required
2024-10-19 21:10 R1CH Status closed => feedback
2024-10-19 21:10 R1CH Resolution no change required => reopened
2024-10-19 21:10 R1CH Note Added: 0044855
2024-10-19 21:14 R1CH Note Added: 0044856
2024-10-19 21:14 R1CH File Added: challenge.jpg
2024-10-19 21:14 R1CH File Added: taunt.jpg
2024-10-19 21:14 R1CH File Added: ibtaunt.jpg
2024-10-19 21:14 R1CH Status feedback => assigned