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0015507Return of ReckoningGeneralpublic2023-12-09 15:18
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Summary0015507: Crown of Fire and Frozen Fury tactics bugged when double BW/Sorc in same party
DescriptionReporter: kalmatar

Crown of Fire + Frozen Fury, 75% chance to proc Flames of Rhuin + Frozen Touch, career tactics for BW + Sorc
works normally fine when ONLY ONE BW or Sorc is using said tactic to improve their damage proc rates.

Problem is, running 2 BW or 2 Sorcs, in which case the original caster of the FoR/FT might be that BW 1 buffs BW 2 with dmg proc, but BW 2 is running tactic to get 75% trigger chance than normal 25%.... in which case things get weird.
Or, in case of Sorc 1 giving Sorc 2 dmg proc, but both running FF tactic, might be that Sorc 2 has actual 75% chance to proc FT but Sorc 1 remains at 25% proc chance despite both using same tactic.
It's buggy, as there was nerf to how damage procs behave, previously CoF/FF would give 75% proc trigger chance to whole party, this was nerfed in early 2017 patch notes, "breaking proc meta", so now things are buggy.

Issue isn't even who was original caster of FoR/FF enchantment, but game RANDOMLY choosing only one of the BWs/Sorcs to have 75% proc chance (as tactic works), but other getting only 25% chance (tactic bugs out and you are effectively running only 3 tactics with 4th being bugged out)
Issue is also related to zones, and travelling between various areas inside of zone, as the game will occasionally somehow switch between BW 1 and BW 2, deciding somehow that one tactic is working and other is getting overrun by other BWs tactic (due to proc meta nerf where somehow CoF/FF will then ensure rest of party has just 25% normal proc rate compared to 75% tactic given proc rate)
Same then for Sorcs, with Crown of Fire and Frozen Fury being mirrors.
Must somehow be related to subregions and RvR reapplying bolster/buffs etc - as it will then at seemingly randomly decide to prevent CoF/FF tactics from remaining functional, with the other sorc/bw in party retaining a functioning tactic and 75% proc rate, while other running same tactic gets just 25% proc rate.

Steps to reproduce the problem:

Running 2 BW or 2 Sorcs and running CoF/FF tactics, moving around on maps with the game then somehow "re-establishing" which player has functional tactic and which has bugged one.

Screenshots/Videos or archive.org evidences:

Evidence is based on hundreds of hours spent on my Sorc + BW in AoE specs, both my Sorc Nynaewe rr82 and BW Moreina rr81 have tried to figure out exact behaviour of this weird tactic bug... even with lot of gameplay recorded, I would have hard time finding "best material" from recordings as evidence.... but so far evidence from all hours spent on BW/Sorc points out that the tactics are very buggy, and only when running 2x BW or 2x Sorc.

This bug report was posted 1.5 years ago, then closed because of a duplicate of another +3 years old report, which was closed because of badly worded report (it is irrelavant which Sorc/BW casts the buff as game will then still randomly choose that one tactic remains functional and other one bugs out) - the bug still exists. Noticed it yesterday again when on Sorc (in a double sorc party) - despite both Sorcs casting their own buffs out of range of each other, the 2nd Sorc running FF would then randomly cause my own FF tactic to simply stop functioning. (have +2h of guild rvr warband footage, and going through my own combat log, Frozen Touch only fires on every 2/10 or every 3/10 of my dmg hits, whereas with my tactic bar having Frozen Fury it should be having a 75% proc chance)
The origin of this buff can probably be traced back to january 2017 patch notes, where it was decided that DoK/WP Sorc/BW proc tactics would have a new "rule" where they only applied to SELF only, and then negate the effect on 5 other party members (causing possible conflict). Somehow this has then caused the Frozen Fury/Crown of Fire tactics to start negating each other when running 2x BW/Sorc in same party (with game then randomly deciding which FF/CoF remains functional while other players FF/CoF bugs out)
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MaxHayman

MaxHayman

2023-12-09 15:18

administrator   ~0041213

This issue is being closed as it should be fixed in the new ability system. Please create a new issue if this is not the case.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2023-08-13 04:03 ReturnOfReckoning New Issue
2023-08-13 04:03 ReturnOfReckoning Tag Attached: Ability
2023-12-09 15:18 MaxHayman Note Added: 0041213
2023-12-09 15:18 MaxHayman Status new => closed