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0021803Return of ReckoningAbilitiespublic2024-10-23 08:38
ReporterR1CH Assigned Todalen  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status closedResolutionfixed 
Summary0021803: WL - Pet move speed / Speed Training
DescriptionSince the ability patch, WL pet speed seems quite off. I don't know if "Speed" in getstats is reliable, but I observe the following:

My dismounted speed - 100
My pet's speed - 235

With these values, I'd expect the pet to easily outrun me, but after ordering it to attack it moves at the same pace as me walking and looks glacial when chasing enemies, even the animations look silly as it sits in the air far too long for how slow it's moving.

Using Speed Training, the pet's getstats speed increases to 352 which is a 50% increase of 235 so the raw number looks correct. While this does increase the pet's speed to match my speed when using charge (+50%) this is significantly lower than the tactic pre-patch where it really made a big difference in the pet speed to the point it could easily catch people running away with flee / charge.

It feels like the base pet speed has been reduced and thus the +50% of Speed Training doesn't make as big of a difference either.
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Rubius

Rubius

2023-12-16 15:43

developer   ~0041737

Just tested and it looks like "Charge!" may not be currently impacting the pet at all if it also has speed training giving it the base boost. Discussing with team now...
leftayparxoun

leftayparxoun

2024-08-04 22:26

reporter   ~0043986

Did some additional testing on it both on WL and on SH.
If Pet speed is counted on the same units as the player's then 235 should be 2+ times faster than what is observed. From testing it via the .getstats command:
- A pet with 235 speed runs as fast as a 100 speed player
- Using ''Charge!'' on WL or the speed training tactic on either WL or SH raises that value to 352 (+50% of 235) and it is indeed as fast as a +50% mount
- Using any kind of mount (25%, 50%, 60%) will result in the pet having 376 speed (+60% of 235) and keeping up with you at all times
- Using ''Charge!'' and ''Speed Training'' tactic on WL pet will not stack (speed = 352, equivalent to player +50%)
- Using ''Flee'' or ''Outta My Way!'' on SH (player speed = 130 or 125 respectively) will NOT affect Pet speed (=235) BUT it will be able to keep up with you (if not engaged)
- If engaged with an enemy in front of you, or if ordered to do so, the Pet will return to (seemingly) 100 player speed and lag behind

So this report can be broken to 3 parts in my opinions:
1. Base pet speed being potentially incorrect or in different units than player speed.
2. Speed Tactics and ''Charge!'' not stacking for the WL pet. Unsure if intended since these are a tactic that doesn't affect an ability and an ability (which should stack under normal stacking rules). An update from the Balance Team should clear that up.
3. Pet being able to catch up during ''Flee''/''Outta My Way!'' despite not having its speed increased. Perhaps tied to issue 1.
leftayparxoun

leftayparxoun

2024-08-05 14:00

reporter   ~0043987

Another update. With some help from the community I managed to locate a .getstats screenshot for a Pet dated at November 2023. This was prior to the ability rework.
Surprisingly, the Pet speed was also listed at 235, and not higher.
Due to the Pets having been undoubtedly faster before the ability rework, this leads me to believe that Issue 1 is due to a bug on the Pet movements speed units prior to the ability rework.
Specifically, the old movement speed was so much faster because it was using player speed units (100 = 0000005:0000020 ft/s) instead of pet units (inches/s). So instead of going at 235 inches/s ~= 20 ft/s it was running 235/100 = 2.35 times faster. At 0000014:0000047 ft/s!
This could explain how the pets could catch up to mounted people back then, since they were only traveling at 32 ft/s.

Overall, if my assumption is correct, the issues I posed before are:
1. Old ability system bug. It being solved needs to be described on the Dec 9th patchnotes (https://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=52129&sid=e04d157f6700dddf97203626ec2f8ea7)
2. Balance change? According to Rubius' comment it seems the Balance Team will have to decide on that. Regardless, it should be mentioned in the Dec 9th patchnotes and if it's changed, in the patchnotes of when the change back occurs.
3. Perhaps unrelated to speed and is forced to follow you in follow mode.
Pet stats Nov23.png (263,627 bytes)
leftayparxoun

leftayparxoun

2024-08-09 18:10

reporter   ~0044008

Some additional tests today showed that Speed Training or Charge! gives +50% speed numerically to the Pet (235 * 1.5 = 352) but the actual speed of the Pet goes from being the same as the player (100) to being just a tiny bit faster than 130. It could be something like 131 or 132 for example. Tested it with Flee the 25% mount and 50% mounts.
siglade

siglade

2024-08-09 20:16

reporter   ~0044009

Pet base speed is slightly slower than player. You can outrun a pet on you just by moving in straight line
dalen

dalen

2024-10-21 10:48

manager   ~0044863

should be fixed in next patch
MaxHayman

MaxHayman

2024-10-23 08:38

administrator   ~0044873

Patch 23/10/2024

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2023-12-15 20:56 R1CH New Issue
2023-12-16 15:43 Rubius Note Added: 0041737
2024-08-04 22:26 leftayparxoun Note Added: 0043986
2024-08-05 14:00 leftayparxoun Note Added: 0043987
2024-08-05 14:00 leftayparxoun File Added: Pet stats Nov23.png
2024-08-09 18:10 leftayparxoun Note Added: 0044008
2024-08-09 20:16 siglade Note Added: 0044009
2024-10-21 10:47 dalen Assigned To => dalen
2024-10-21 10:47 dalen Status new => assigned
2024-10-21 10:48 dalen Status assigned => resolved
2024-10-21 10:48 dalen Resolution open => fixed
2024-10-21 10:48 dalen Note Added: 0044863
2024-10-23 08:38 MaxHayman Note Added: 0044873
2024-10-23 08:38 MaxHayman Status resolved => closed